Thought: Four Hundred Seventy
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28 August 2009
Suppose, a cat has told you that all
cats are liars. Should you believe it or not?
Friends! Could anyone please solve
this problem?
If there is a problem, then must
there will be a solution….
Ok. Then, what can be the solution?
Could you suggest something, please?
this is all paradox…n your comment
is irrelevant…
it would depend, which cat is
telling… a trust worthy cat I might believe…
You know, paradoxical problems are
not irrelevant but you can say here that they need a bit more interpretation. I
think, irrelevance and ambiguity are not synonymous.
what’s the problem to solve? there’s
no solution if there’s no problem!!!
It’s 50-50 actually. coz the cat may
be a liar or not. It’s impossible to determine…
But, if you happen to believe it,
then how can the cat be trustworthy?
I didn’t get you, I meant if the cat
is trustworthy already to me.. then I might believe but I personally don’t
depend on beliefs no matter how trustworthy the person is…
……is that not a cat?
…… Well. Can you find any other
allegorical or, satirical simile that is somewhat identical to it, please?
I dnt believe ths…cz it makes no sense to judge everyone by one person….
yeah well cat or whatever…
a rack on the table posting don’t
put anything on it…
The problem is like ‘i will only
made those faint who can’t made themselves faint, will I faint myself?’
I m a liar…is it true or false?…
well, my question is… does it
really matter?… whether someone is a liar or not?… it will when I am
involved in connection with the cat or something… I will only consider
whether to believe the cat or not… otherwise I can carry on with my life and
be happy… who cares whether you are a liar or not… ha ha ha
It’s a cyclic prob wo end like the
chicken or the egg, which came 1st. If all cats are liars then we cannot trust
the 1st 1. As all the cats are liars, I will not trust the 1st cat.
You are a liar (or may be not) —
does it really matter to me?… not really… so dear, you can happily be a
liar or not a liar.
…… You can easily leave the rack
on the table empty. It is possible.
….. A liar is not absolutely a
liar so far as the psycho-relativity concept is under consideration.
You considered that all cats are
liars, but you got the info from the first cat, although you are not believing it!
An old man says I will give this house
to whoever is satisfied… any one of you?
…. You don’t trust the first
cat… this means that all cats are truthful. Then why should you not trust
it? Or, how can it tell a lie?
….. Well. If you’d not like to
believe it then all cats are truthful. Then how can it lie or, why should you
distrust it?
I think I don’t fit this bill…
because my point is, why do I need to trust or distrust any of them? If you can
answer this question that will solve the problem.
…. You know, there are no absolute
standards for measuring satisfaction. It varies from person to person. So, based
upon what criteria should you assess it?
Sushanta, not trusting the first cat
doesn’t necessarily mean all of them are trustworthy, maybe some are liars..
That is, you’re adopting the middle
path. But this policy doesn’t hold good in this case because it contradicts
the view of the statement. How can we clarify the statement of the cat,
@Mahamudul.
…… Huh! Would that I could find
a straight answer to this question, I wouldn’t have bothered you. I lack knowledge
for clarifying the sense.
…… If I have no other options left
without knowing the fact, and have only one cat available for interrogating,
what should I do?
Do whatever you want….
….. I only want to ask you. lol.
…… Huh! Must you necessarily
fall in love to write a romantic poem?
Furthermore, if all cats are liars
de cannot become domestic pet. Wd you have a pet who will lie all the time and
you will love and feed him? Definitely not. So, I will not trust the 1st cat at
all. Sum cats are truthful. When they eat your fish, they come and sit next to
you and not lie anything since they are content. A liar wouldn’t have the
courage to come to you.
Ok. I’ve no problems in replacing
the cat with a tiger. Are you still interested in making the tiger you pet?
lol.
Of course not! No matter what a
tiger does or says not nobody is going to trust it. the prob got easier. Now be at peace, Sushanta.
Well, Mr. Paul, you better be a
philosopher or something like that.
Huh!…… Now you tell me what are
the additional qualities that I should have, so that you can say to me,
“You’re a philosopher” instead of saying, “You better be a
philosopher”? lol.
… Are you frightened by the tiger’s roar?
……..will have to check out with
jerry the mouse……
No problem. Try it. The ambiguity
will not remove!
28 August 2009
Friends! Let’s go to the fairyland
in dream. Good Night.
Reflection: Four hundred and seventy-one
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29 August 2009
Sunny Good Morning!
29 August 2009
I often tell my elders and friends
(who urge me to change my views about Religion) that if God doesn’t like the
way I live, let him tell me, not you.
The elders/ friends may have been
sent by the god you believe in… possible? God has many ways to send messages
– alert mind gets it faster… possible?
The more I study religions the more
I am convinced that man never worshiped anything but himself. So, I think all
of the gods are merely homemade are created in the way man wants.
God will tell you, when the time is
right. It will be a moment of revelation, trust me! And it will be exquisite!
I suggest you read ‘The God
Dellusion’ by Richard Dawkins. He has deflated many creationist theories, much
to the displeasure and discomfort of ‘believers’.
Exactly, abed! Well said.
যতক্ষণ আমাদের বোধগম্যতার প্রশ্ন, আমরা আমাদের নিউরো-কাঠামোর সীমানার মধ্যেই উপলব্ধি করতে পারি। বিশ্বব্রহ্মাণ্ডের যে অংশ এখনো আমাদের উপলব্ধির আওতায় আসেনি, সেটা কেবলমাত্র দর্শনের (সরল ভাষায় ‘বিশ্বাস’) এখতিয়ারে থেকে যায়। আমরা আমাদের চালু বিশ্বাসগুলির ভিত্তিমূল খুঁড়ে বের করার জন্য হাতিয়ার আবিষ্কারের অন্বেষণে আছি। সুতরাং, এখানে বিশ্বাসের তেমন বৈধতা নেই।
একটা উদাহরণ দিই: ঈশ্বর মৃত। — নিৎশে
নিৎশে মৃত। — ঈশ্বর
আমি ভিন্নমত পোষণ করি। আপনি এখানে যে বৈজ্ঞানিক উপাদানগুলির কথা বলেছেন, সেগুলো সবই ইতিমধ্যে প্রমাণিত তত্ত্ব। কিন্তু ঈশ্বরের অস্তিত্বকে সমর্থন করে এমন কিছু কি কেউ এখনো পর্যন্ত প্রমাণ করেছেন? মানুষ একটা পোকাও সৃষ্টি করতে পারে না, অথচ সে ডজন ডজন ঈশ্বর বানাতে পারে। আর জানেন স্যার, মানুষ ঈশ্বরকে সৃষ্টি করেছে এবং এখনও নিজের মতো করে সৃষ্টি করে চলেছে। আর খুবই মজার ব্যাপার, আজকের পৃথিবীতে অধিকাংশ মানুষের ঈশ্বর নিয়ে আবেগ এমন যেন দুজন লোক একজন মহিলা নিয়ে ঝগড়া করছে, যার প্রতি তাদের কারোরই আদতে কোনো ভালোবাসা নেই এবং এটা কেবল পার্থিব স্বার্থের জন্য। @ জনাব আবেদ চৌধুরী।
আবেদ, একদম ঠিক! আমি আমার আত্মাকে দেখতে পাই না বা বুঝতে পারি না বলে কি তার মানে এই যে সে নেই? উচ্চতর বুদ্ধিমত্তার যে কেউ উপলব্ধি করে যে আরও উচ্চতর স্তরের বুদ্ধিমত্তা নিয়ন্ত্রণে আছে। আমি যে প্রোটিয়াসের কথা পোস্ট করেছিলাম সুশান্ত, সেটা দেখো, তুমিও বিশ্বাসী হয়ে যাবে!
সুশান্ত, ইসলামে স্বাগতম!
হে বন্ধু, আমি তাঁকে সর্বত্র খুঁজেছি, কিন্তু কোনো লাভ হয়নি। কারণ আমি আর তিনি এক, দুই নই। একটি ফোঁটা যখন সমুদ্রে মিশে যায়, তখন তাকে আলাদা করে কীভাবে দেখা যায়? সমুদ্র যখন ফোঁটায় নিমজ্জিত হয়, তখন কে বলতে পারে কী কোনটা? আর এখানেই সমস্যা।
একটা প্রবাদ আছে, “তুমি যদি ঈশ্বরকে খুঁজতে চাও, বাগানে যাও…এই কাজের জন্য তুমি একটা গর্তও খুঁড়তে পারো…”
ফোঁটাটি কৃতজ্ঞচিত্তে সমুদ্রের সাথে সংগমের অনুভূতি লাভ করে, তাই না? অবশ্যই, তিনি আর আমি এক!! চমৎকার…!
তোমার ভেতরেই…আছে মন্দির, মসজিদ, সিনাগগ….
তুমি যতো নিজেকে জানবে, ততোই তাঁকে জানবে। ভেতরে তাকাও, সুশান্ত!
দুটো বিষয়, আমার মনে হয় একাধিক বিষয় থালায় আছে!
“আমি জানি যে আমি যে ঈশ্বরে বিশ্বাস করি, তিনিই একমাত্র সত্যিকারের ঈশ্বর, আর আমি ভুল নই। হ্যাঁ, এটা একটা সাহসী কথা কিন্তু আমি আমার অন্তরে জানি যে এটাই সত্য।”
যদি তুমি পরম অর্থে বল যে তুমি জানো, তবে সেটা অত্যন্ত অহংকারজনক, এবং আমি বলব যে সমর্থনের প্রমাণ হাজির করো। যদি তুমি পরম অর্থে কিছু বলো, তোমার কাছে সেটা সমর্থন করার প্রমাণ থাকতে হবে এবং তুমি আগেই বলেছ যে নেই। সুতরাং না, তুমি জানো না; তুমি বিশ্বাস করো।
তুমি তোমার হৃদয়ে বিশ্বাস করো, কিন্তু তুমি জানতে পারো না। এগুলো দুটো সম্পূর্ণ ভিন্ন বিষয়। ঠিক যেমন কেউ যদি তোমাকে বলে যে তারা জানে ‘ঈশ্বর(গণ)’ নেই…তুমি কি এই বক্তব্যের সাক্ষ্য হিসেবে প্রমাণ চাইবে না? (ক্ষমা করো, যদি আমাকে অভদ্র মনে হয়)
কোয়ান্টাম বিশৃঙ্খলার ক্ষেত্রে কিছু প্রশ্ন উন্মুক্ত রয়ে গেছে কিন্তু কোয়ান্টাম তত্ত্ব আগে ব্যাখ্যাহীন অনেক ঘটনার সুনির্দিষ্ট বর্ণনা প্রদান করে।
ডকিন্স কলিন্সের ঈশ্বরের অস্তিত্বের পক্ষে যুক্তিগুলোকে “সমস্ত ফাঁকি-বাজির জনক-জননী” এবং “ব্যাখ্যার দায়িত্ব এড়ানোর এক অবিশ্বাস্য পথ” বলে আখ্যায়িত করেছিলেন, এবং কলিন্সের কোনো উত্তর ছিল না।
আমি তোমার “উভয় পক্ষেই যুক্তি রয়েছে”…এবং “অশোধিত সৃষ্টিতত্ত্ব উত্তর নয়” চিন্তাধারার সাথে একমত।
বিশ্বাসীরা প্রতিটি মানব সংস্কৃতিতে আধিপত্য বিস্তার করেছে এবং আমরা আমাদের পারিবারিক ধর্মের ফাঁদে আটকা পড়েছি। এটা কীভাবে ঘটল তা বিশ্লেষণ করতে থামলে, উত্তরটা সাধারণত কোনো না কোনো ধরনের ‘শৈশবের মগজধোলাই’।
“আকস্মিক বিষয়গুলো এক অনাকস্মিক সত্তার দাবি রাখে।”…………এটা অনেক বিশ্বাসীর কাছে ব্যাপকভাবে স্বীকৃত একটি ধারণা। কিন্তু এটা উপসংহারে পৌঁছায় যে “ঈশ্বর কী তা কেবল ঈশ্বরই”। এটা কি আদৌ যুক্তিসঙ্গত শোনায়?
এটা একটা দুর্দান্ত দৃষ্টিভঙ্গি!!
এমন কেউ কি আছে যে আমাকে তোমার বিশ্বাসের ধর্মে স্বাগত জানাবে, সামিরার মতো, দয়া করে? (সামিরা…….. আমি অনুরোধ করব তুমি এই মন্তব্যে কোনো অপরাধ নিও না, এটা বেশ ব্যঙ্গাত্মক।)
মার্ক্সের উদ্ধৃতি দিতে “ধর্ম হলো জনগণের আফিম।” এটা মানুষের ইন্দ্রিয়গুলোকে অসাড় করে দেয় এবং যুক্তিকে হত্যা করে। সত্য হলো মানুষই ঈশ্বর সৃষ্টি করেছে। বিড়ম্বনা হলো যে মানুষ ঈশ্বর সৃষ্টি করেছে এবং এই সত্যটি সম্পূর্ণভাবে ভুলে যাওয়া হয়েছে এবং এখন মানুষ বলে যে ঈশ্বর মানুষ সৃষ্টি করেছেন।
মানুষ তার নিজের রূপে ঈশ্বর সৃষ্টি করেছে। যদি আমরা স্বীকার করি যে ঈশ্বর মানুষ সৃষ্টি করেছেন তবে আমরা ডজন খানেক ধর্মের জন্য ডজন খানেক ঈশ্বর পাব। শুধু তাই নয়, আমরা সেই ডজন খানেক ধর্মে ভুল ধারণা প্রচারকারী লক্ষ লক্ষ ভণ্ড নেতা (তথাকথিত) পাব।
এটা ফ্র্যাঙ্কেনস্টাইনের দানবের মতো যা মানুষকে তাড়া করতে ফিরে আসে / পছন্দ হোক বা না হোক – ধর্মই বেশিরভাগ যুদ্ধের কারণ বলে মনে হয়।
তুমি ‘মনে হয়’ এর জায়গায় ‘নিশ্চিতভাবে’ বলতে খুবই ভদ্র!
কী পক্ষপাতদুষ্ট ধারণা!
The same questions were aroused in
the mind of Prophet Muhammad (SM) seeing people worshiping man made Gods: if
Gods are created by men from mud and are worshiped by the same creator men then
how can these Gods can feed the whole planet, save us from…..
Every devotee of every religion will
have thousands of such man-made lines to write in favour of that religion. This
is the reason of our intellectual degradation.
Your ancestors were used to made
these types comments but could not made a single line like what is written in
Quran – the Quote from Allah. Another thing we should remember: Little learning
is a very dangerous thing.
True, Chanak / the Kashmir dispute
has its root cause in religion / the terrorist attacks can be traced back to
core religious beliefs of the terrorists / the crusades
the fights between the roman
Catholics and Protestants
The thirty years war
The Saxon wars
even the second world war had some
linkage to religion as Hitler was antisemitic
The opinion is not biased and is
based on facts – Chanak is careful with words which is why he uses seems –
there are other reasons also.
the Palestinian dispute is also
traceable to core religious conflicts / Yes religion has divided more than
united.
…………..Sir, I’m not young
enough to know everything. So, may be that I’m attacked with the problem of
little learning. My ancestors? Well, they just blindly followed the doctrines
of their ancestors. If they contemplated on the facts, they would never try to
leave me in a ‘childhood indoctrination’. (Anyway, I beg your pardon if I’ve
anyhow offended you or your belief.)
……….Hope, our other friends
are reading Tripti’s comment.
………….Here you’ve submitted
some good irrefutable points. 🙂
Every life is a possession of faith, and exercises an inevitable and silent
propaganda. I think that a society cannot live without a certain number of
irrational beliefs. They are protected from criticism and analysis because they
are irrational. A belief is not merely an idea the mind possesses; it is an
idea that possesses the mind (and here lies the problem). Our way of thinking
always dominates over the world we live in or, more specifically, the world we
want to live in. Both a theist and an atheist are sticking to two different
beliefs regarding the similar thing. Our neuro-psychological world is composed
of the inherent thoughts we nourish and practise.
Religious debate should be conducted
among people who’ve sufficient deep knowledge of all, if not, at least about
his own religion. Otherwise there is every possibilities of hurting others.
Anyway, I’m with no doubt a normal Muslim without profound religious
background.
Sir, when I do anything good, I feel
good. When I do anything bad, I feel bad. And this is my Religion.
Reflection: Four Hundred and Seventy-Two
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29 August 2009
We should consider every day lost on
which our heart has not danced at least once.
Sushanta, are you studying
Philosophy. Great!
Why should I study something that
can be study from our life? I’m just trying to study my life and the lives of
the people around me. thanx
29 August 2009
Our life becomes blessed only when
we don’t love to be loved; we love to love.
Our heart is formed of love and
therefore, can never be happy without the golden opportunity of giving and
receiving love. If you give love, you feel blessed. Better to receive love in
return. But even if you don’t, why should you be worried? If there any loss of
divine bliss, to be sure, the loss is not yours.
To Love is a passionate choice but
your comment determined it’s a source of gambling. Prevention is better than
cure, so love widely without expectation of beloved love……u are a lovesick
dude, your condition is “the heart says stay away, the world says don’t come close!”
To be passionate in the truest sense
is probably the greatest responsibility a human heart can bear. And, since the
dawn of civilization, all the natural entities have been exerting love which is
often found to be unconditional. So, why the question of gambling comes here?
Tolerance and celebration of
Individual differences is the fire that fuels lasting love.
Even in the darkest night, there is
a glow. Let that glow throw a glimpse on the intolerance and segregation of
souls. Let there be a light of love! @Tamanna
29 August 2009
When words fail, eyes speak. When
eyes fail, silence speaks. When silence fails, heart speaks.
When heart fails, death speaks…
When death fails, life speaks..hehe
When life fails, then……
Being weekend, no one wants Johnny
Walker to speak??
When life fails, you create a new
one
Resurrection? Or, Renovation?
Hahaha.
I’d like to add here, Death is not
extinguishing light, it’s just putting the lamp down. So, death never terminates
absolutely!
The language of soul is probably the
only language that is defined universally. The language of silence is yet to be
revealed as it is not regardless of human heart. Eyes can never lie. So, you
must be endowed with some rarest faculties to read the mystic pages of eyes.
The language of life is unique. It says like Dryden, “Death! Thou shalt
die!”
Friends! Can you please suggest
more?
Simple! Death reigns!
It always speaks. It’s an eternal
flow. Just try to hear it.
When I am here – only I speak –
Understood!
If not understand
Then Chanak speaks! Huh! He is my
friend.
Samira: Silence is always more
eloquent than words! In the dense night of my unspoken words…..
Sushanta: The one I have lost,
he is the god of my soul.
In the deep solitude, alone in darkness,
my heart-lotus has brought tidings,
amidst a hundred clamors.
I look again and again,
yet in an instant lose sight,
of where my life’s music eternally plays.
(Sister,
I don’t know your written song. So I’ve composed the words above. I don’t know if they even come close to the original!
I’d be happy if you could tell me.) @Samira.
When heart fails, the messenger of death speaks.
29 August 2009
She walks in beauty, like the
night…….. Of cloudless climes and starry skies…… I’ll behold her
throughout the night…….. Good Night Friends!
I look forward her way and yearn for
an ever-lasting night. I’ll make necklace for her with the silvery shade of the
moon. I’ll make the canopy stay forever only for her!
O Night! I’ll arrange a grand
reception only for you. Just stay until my sweetheart stays here!
Byron, I suppose
Sushanta Paul Right you are! The
first two lines……..
30 August 2009
Friends! Which one has the stronger
impact in a person’s life? Memory-images? or, Imagination?
Memory-images.
Could memory-images help anyone
create a masterpiece?
Ambiguous!
If you can make a blend of
imagination based on memory only then memory can work on your advantage.
Imagination.
How can you imagine without setback
of memory?
Both…Imagination has roots in your
creativity.. which I think is linked to the stored data (memory images)
Do memory-images ever retard
free-contemplation?
Sometimes the treasures in stock
come to no use in time of need.
I feel both the impact……coz
human loves to live in past & future
None.
Most of human lives in past or
future.
But we should always live in present
– in this very moment.
The memory and imagination are
interlinked. The objectives stored in the memory section can only be used to
grow on imagination. The imagination is the combination of memory, perception
and its association. It is the ability to from different images in mind.
In case of manipulative
extrapolation, our memory-images contribute a lot, but this doesn’t also hold
good if we’re poor in contemplation of any abstract or, concrete notion. Again,
in meta-physical concept, it is presumed that in most cases, we are hardly
helped by the memory-images rather they can even sometimes diminish our
imaginative power.
Imagination
memory images are linked to reality
and hence has a stronger impact. See how I have been strongly impacted by
memories of your previous arguments and threads.
as for memory images creating a
masterpiece sushanta please read any biographical work
imagination……..
to take another analogy – a good
chess player relies on imagination as well as reconstructs of past positions.
the reconstructs of past positions has a greater impact on his moves (courtesy:
Gerald Abrahams)
An autobiography or a biography is
hardly regarded as a masterpiece, you know. Actually, man acts on impulses and
strong desires. For these two instincts a harmonious interlink between memory
and imagination is a must, otherwise any annihilation might occur. But for
proper contemplation, many writings have got interpolations, we see frequently.
But, for the development of human race, a blend of both ingredients is pivotal.
That was a very good explanation
Sushanta and very much agreeable. your status means something else though…
you wanted your friends to choose one or the other being more important, not
the blend of both.
Reflection: Four Hundred Seventy-Three
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30 August 2009
Paradoxical Human Nature: When you
say, “I love you”, he/she says, “It’s too early!” When you
don’t say that, he/she thinks, “Isn’t it too late?”
Never heard anyone say, it’s so
early. When hearts melt, time loses its essence…
Not always.
Chanak @ Tripti, it is too early to
say it is too late
Chanak Love is a state which takes
in a variety of experiences and feelings. It transcends time and hence this
cannot be subject to the surgeon’s knife of reason
love can never be generalised………its
unique between a pair of specific people.
Anyway, Sushanta!! Have you
experienced true love?
Yes Samira didi! I’ve luckily many
admirers and friends who love me truly. Their love is a treasure for my life.
If you tell me of Platonic love,
then I’ll say that I’ve not been blessed with it yet!
30 August 2009
……..enjoying the golden
twilight!……..feel like dancing!
30 August 2009
Our life is but a walking
shadow………a story told by an idiot!
which story do you mean?
The story that is thousand years
old, yet afresh for telling and listening for thousand years to come.
Now it’s up to us to make it
meaningful.
30 August 2009
A woman’s imagination soon turns to
love, love to matrimony. So, I think, she shapes the world with a blend of
fancy.
A woman’s imagination often imbibes
in the fusion of unreality. She has a deeper compassion for even the slightest
passion of a man. She hardly judges rather receives what her whim suggests her.
Logistic thoughts often seem worthless in case of love. I can tell you this for
sure.
Women are most credulous species
I’ve ever found.
I wasn’t being personal Tripi….but
women are at times very complicated…lots go in their mind, unseen, unheard.
অধিকাংশ নারী, এমনকি সবচেয়ে কঠোর এবং সফলরাও, হয়তো জাগতিক বিষয়ে অত্যন্ত বুদ্ধিমতী এবং সচেতন, কিন্তু যখন পুরুষ এবং ভালোবাসার প্রশ্ন আসে, তখন তারা স্বপ্নের রাজ্যে, এবং অব্যবহারিক ও অতিরিক্ত দাবিদার হয়ে পড়েন, আর এই সবের সাথে বয়স বা বিবাহের বছরগুলির প্রায়ই কোনো সম্পর্ক থাকে না।
….. একজন নারীর হৃদয় কোনো চালাক পুরুষের মধুর বাক্যে অরক্ষিত। তার হৃদয় শুধুমাত্র গলে যাওয়ার জন্যই তৈরি এবং মাঝে মাঝে আমি ভাবি এর আদৌ কোনো কঠিন আকার আছে কিনা!
….. তুমি ভুল বলছো, ভাই। বিয়ে সম্পর্কে জানতে হলে কি অবশ্যই বিয়ে করতে হবে? হাহা।
আমি একজন নারীকে ফাঁদে ফেলার বা কোনো নারীর ফাঁদে পড়ার মতো যুবক নই। আশা করি আমার কথা বুঝেছো। ধন্যবাদ।
হ্যাঁ সুশান্ত………..যৌনতা আর বিবাহ আলাদা, প্রেমিকা আর স্ত্রী আলাদা…………..এবং সর্বোপরি একই মেয়ে বিবাহের আগে এবং পরে সম্পূর্ণ বিপরীত! বিবাহ প্রেম, রোমান্স আর যৌনতা থেকে সম্পূর্ণ আলাদা খেলা।
সুশান্ত…..একজন নারীর মস্তিষ্ক এবং হৃদয় তার পুরুষের জন্য সম্পূর্ণ অনির্ভরযোগ্য।
আমি তোমাকে এডওয়ার্ড সায়েদের ‘ওরিয়েন্টালিজম’ পড়ার পরামর্শ দেব।
জানো, ঈশ্বর আদমকে সৃষ্টি করার পর হাওয়াকে সৃষ্টি করেছিলেন। কেন? আমার মনে হয় তিনি কোনো পরামর্শ চাননি। এবং এখানে একটি স্পষ্ট ইঙ্গিত হলো যে মানব সভ্যতার একেবারে শুরু থেকেই, একজন নারীর হৃদয় মহাবিশ্বের সবচেয়ে অনুমেয় বিষয়গুলিতেও অনুমান করা যায় না।
কী জাতিবাদী মন্তব্য, সুশান্ত!
…… আমি তোমার দৃষ্টি আকর্ষণ করি। তুমি যদি দয়া করে সেই মন্তব্যটি আরেকবার পড়ো, তাহলে আমার বর্তমান অবস্থা বার্তার প্রসঙ্গে বাস্তববাদের সাথে মিশ্রিত কিছু ব্যঙ্গ খুঁজে পাবে। তুমি কি আরেকবার পড়তে আপত্তি করবে?
আমি অস্বীকার করি!
কী অস্বীকার? আবার পড়া? নাকি তোমার আগের মন্তব্য?
আবার পড়া!
কল্পনা বা কল্পনাপ্রবণতার মিশ্রণ!
কল্পনা ভালোবাসায় রূপান্তরিত হয়? না!
ভালোবাসা বিবাহে? সত্যিই!
কী স্বীকার করবো? আমার তো আদৌ কোনো বক্তব্য ছিল না। শুধু তোমার থেকে দ্বিমত করেছি….
আমি কি তোমাকে কষ্ট দিয়েছি?
আসলে, আমি এটা ব্যঙ্গার্থে বলেছি। একজন নারীর হৃদয় প্রলুব্ধ করা যথেষ্ট সহজ। সে তার চারপাশের জগৎ সম্পর্কে যা রূপ দেয়, তা সাধারণত বাস্তববাদ নয় বরং তার কল্পনা দ্বারাই মূলত পক্ষপাতদুষ্ট হয়।
তাই, যারা একজন নারীর যুক্তির নয় বরং কেবল তার কল্পনার সুযোগ নিয়ে তাকে শিকার করে, আমি তাদের প্রতি কখনো কোনো সম্মান রাখি না।
What makes you think it can be
easily allured! A woman’s heart is the treasure of a thousand years of devotion,
haven’t you read?
I agree with you we are naive and
gullible…….if that is the case, I hail such romanticism, we will die a thousand
deaths rather than be practical and pragmatic!
Logic and imagination are entwined,
isn’t it? And we all know once in love the logical side of any human brain
short circuits, be it man or woman.
Personally, I’ve bitter hatred for
any type of mismatch in case of love and matrimony. (Maybe it is due to my fair
attitude towards life or, Agonies gathered from many mismatches in this
context.)
Where are our thoughts wandering?
You better say as you’re a woman.
Hahahaha.
Now we are talking!!!
But, I’m very bad at wandering over
the thoughts of any woman whom I’m talking to!
Thoughts are meandering rivers,
aren’t they, S!
Yes. They’re. I’ve not yet bathed in
any of those rivers possessed by women.
Pity!
Not at all! I was blessed in many
ways.
both men and women react the same
way in love / they behave like they have lost their reason. So, if any of you
find some arguments which are not reasonable then you know what to infer
check out whether any of the
comments above are reasonable to find out who are in love. I checked each and every
comment and found that Sushant’s comments did not look reasonable so you can
infer what has happened to Sushanta
Sushanta, I hope you are not upset
with my comments
what a philosophy………..
I never get upset, because it seems
to me too difficult to bear!
difference between Sushanta and me
is – he takes things in the right spirit whereas I take things with the right
spirit.
that was a spirited reply.
Soup of Spirit blended with
spirit…… Taken in different cups.
Reflection: Four Hundred Seventy-four
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30 August 2009
In most cases, we abide by the
religious customs against our sweet will. Friends! Agree? or, Disagree?
Most of us nourish a hatred for
God-based religion. I personally, have tons of objections against most
religious views and they always seem to of plainly ludicrous and disgusting.
Religion is the faultiest creation
of mankind.
I’d like to add. God-based religion
is the barrier to any intellectual or, factual development of an independent
human being.
can be constructively used as a
stress reliever……..bend it according to your need…….
But, miserably we’re to yield to the
ignorant society. Most people in society accept Religion just as the same way a
drug-addict takes drug.
… or sex
I differ. You can have it adopting
some measures that can keep you away from the consequences that might be
associated with it. But Religion never cares any protective measures. It
annihilates in its own way.
Each soul is potentially divine. The
goal is to manifest this divine within by controlling nature external and
internal.
…Religion is important 4 human
civilization….Bcz In some aspects restriction is needed as we are human
beings…we live in the society…Only the beasts can do whatever they like.
But we can’t…R you want 2 b a beast? I am sure you don’t….
We can think, make rule for those
who get perverted among us, and obviously break rules if we wish. Now, the
point of obeying comes. Can you put a human being into shackles against his
will, or should you do that ever? If you compel anyone to abide by any rule
against his will, you destroy his inner psyche. And in this case, you can never
call him a ‘human being’. The religious customs often stand on the way to be an
enlightened complete human being and they are simply ludicrous.
Religion is a philosophy which once
gave man a framework to lead his life. It has outlived its utility and the only
purpose it serves is in uniting a group of people under one forum and also
focusing a man’s mind on what he actually wants.
to that extent religion is necessary
And it is to be visualized properly.
Otherwise, atheism is the better option.
remember even Jesus Christ is an
atheist ( he was born a Jew but did not follow Judaism )
I feel encouraged! Lol…….
Sushanta, should I delete my comment
Don’t do it. I want others to be
encouraged also!
……Christianity and Judaism both
are wrong religion. (Because of being a Muslim I can’t say this
)………….Galileo was regarded as atheist as he was a Christian….. If he
was a Muslim he wouldn’t…..So what is the definition of atheism?
….. The previous one is for you. I
think I shouldn’t say anything about it. Please say something on my friend’s
comment.
Faith is faith my dear sir / to say
that this faith is superior to the other is like saying that your love is the
only love which exists in the world.
30 August 2009
Which one does a true lover say?
“I love you because I can’t live without you.” or, “I can’t live
without you because I love you.”
Well both are good but 2nd line is
better because here his/her life comes second to love
None, true love does not require
dependence, if you cannot live because you love someone, that is not love, but
dependence
Paradox….
2nd option
You should love someone, who cannot
live without you!
None of them..
A very nice discussion is going on.
So far, I’ve seen, I think that if you’re in true love, you can live with or,
without your beloved for his/her happiness. Pragmatically, you never bother
about whether your beloved can or, can’t live without you.
But, in case of marriage, you’ve to
marry only that person who can’t live without you, otherwise there might be a
break up after your marriage.
Now, comes another relevant point.
Should love result in marriage, or, not?
1st one when I was first in love and
now as I have matured the 2nd one.
Cool!
31 August 2009
I think, men are of two types: i)
Alive & ii) Married……. Friends! Agree? or, Disagree?
I’m happy that I’m still alive!
Agree…
Disagree….married and alive…
Agree.
And there is the third type – iii)
Happy Men…
Facebook relation status of that
happy man…. ‘It’s complicated.’….. lolz…..
… that’s for you to find out…
for I never label people as I know we all have all three states in life and
more to it…
Friends! Those of you who are alive
married men, please receive my salute. Now, would you please tell us the secret
of your being ‘ALIVE’?
I Think The Only Secret Of Alive
Married Man Is Love Between Each Other…..And Its True 100%….
I think, the rate of break-ups or,
divorce will reduce dramatically if friendship is established side by side of
love in conjugal life.
– who are you labeling now – don’t
go personal whosoever it is! have a gr8 day
I Am Agree With you In This Matter
female are 2 types-
1. servant in father’s house
including—”Look at your studies! And your appearance… what prince is waiting for you?”
2. servant in law’s house, as well
as job— “What’s the matter, you earn so much salary, where does it all go? You give it to your father’s house, don’t you?”
…… I’d like to introduce the
third type……. Females who can damn care the first two.
I never try personal labelling as it
sometimes turns to flattery and often is largely biased by partiality. So,
please take my words for a generalized view! @Aroop da.
It’s The Natural Matter In Our
Country And In Case Of Other Countries Also……I Hate This Position Of
Female’s In Our Family…..I Believe In Freedom…..
Please just don’t hate, rather
suggest something for uplifting the present status of the women.
– wow… thank u, I think we can be
better friend from now… because I’m one of those few women, who are in the
3rd type… have a nice day friend
you are absolutely right vai. thank
you for your opinion
I think it’s better not to care
those who never feel that they should care you as you care them.
I think the women will be in a
privileged position only when I can replace the word ‘MAN’ with ‘WOMAN’ in my
status message. Friends! Do you think so?
That death is equal to heaven!
Hmm…… বিয়ে…. ব্যবহারিক জগতের অন্যতম মধুর-শোনানো অথচ সবচেয়ে কম বোঝা শব্দগুলোর একটি। বেশিরভাগ বিয়েই টিকে থাকে প্রকৃত পারস্পরিক বোঝাপড়ার পরিবর্তে আপসের ভিত্তিতে। মন থেকে কিছু নেওয়া আর শুধু মেনে নেওয়া যে আমাদের নিতেই হবে — এই দুটো কি একই অর্থ বহন করে? কখনোই না। তাই এখানে স্বামী-স্ত্রী প্রায়ই সত্যিকারের খুশি না হয়ে খুশি থাকার অভিনয় করে। আমি এমনকি শুনেছি যে প্রায় ৮০% সফল বিয়েই সাধারণত মিথ্যার উপর ভিত্তি করে টিকে থাকে। কিন্তু শেষ কথা হলো, এই সামাজিক প্রতিষ্ঠানটি অস্বীকার করার মতো করে এতটাই গভীরভাবে প্রোথিত।
বিবাহিত পুরুষেরাও মাঝে মাঝে জীবন্ত হয়ে ওঠে
বিয়ে ভালো — যতক্ষণ না তুমি বিয়ে করছ।
আমি মনে করি, বিয়ে যদি সত্যিই আশীর্বাদ হতো, তাহলে বিবাহিত লোকেরা কখনো অবিবাহিতদের এ বিষয়ে রাজি করানোর চেষ্টা করতো না। হুম……
আশীর্বাদ সম্পর্কে জানি না তবে বিয়ে হলো একটা সহচর্য… দুজন মানুষ যদি একে অন্যের সাথে মানানসই না হয়, তাহলে সেটাকে বলা যায় খারাপ সহচর্য এবং সেটা জীবন্ত না থাকার কাছাকাছি… সুতরাং বলা যেতে পারে যে, বিয়ে একটি আশীর্বাদ যখন দুজন মানুষ সর্বোত্তম সম্ভাব্য সহচর্য তৈরি করতে পারে
অনেক সংস্কৃতিতে যারা বিয়ে করে তারা একে অন্যকে চেনেই না / এটা অনেকটা অন্ধ ডেটিংয়ের মতো কিন্তু এমন একটা যা তোমাকে সারাজীবনের জন্য বেঁধে রাখে
অন্ধ ডেটিং……. যথার্থ শোনাচ্ছে!
অন্ধ ডেটিং মজার যতক্ষণ তোমার বেরিয়ে আসার স্বাধীনতা আছে…অন্ধ বিয়ে বিপজ্জনক এবং দুজনেই খাদে পড়বে অথবা গন্তব্যে পৌঁছাবে যদি ভাগ্য সহায় থাকে
তোমার জন্য একটা প্রশ্ন আছে সুশান্ত। ধরো তুমি একটা অন্ধ ডেটে আছ এবং তোমার অন্তর্দৃষ্টি দিয়ে তার কোনো ছবি না দেখে বা তার চেহারা কেমন একদমই না জেনে, তুমি তার অদেহী ব্যক্তিত্বকে অসাধারণ বলে মনে করলে। কিন্তু যখন তার সাথে দেখা হলো, তুমি তাকে শারীরিকভাবে আকর্ষণীয় মনে করলে না। তুমি কী করবে?
কঠিন প্রশ্ন! এমন কোনো মহিলার সাথে দেখা করার ব্যবস্থা না করাটাই ভালো হতো, বরং অবিবাহিত থেকে আরো অনেককে খুশি রাখতাম। হা হা।
হে হে হে… সহজ পালানো, তাই না? আমার ব্যক্তিগত মত হলো, তুমি সেই ধরনের ব্যক্তিত্বের প্রশংসা করতে পারো, ঈর্ষা করতে পারো কিন্তু যার প্রতি তুমি আকর্ষণ অনুভব করো না তার সাথে ডেট করা একরকম অর্থহীন… কিন্তু তুমি সবসময় তাকে একজন ভালো বন্ধু হিসেবে নিতে পারতে এবং উল্টোটাও…
হ্যাঁ! যা হোক, আমার স্ত্রীর জন্য একজন ভালো বন্ধু হতে চাইব, কিন্তু সেভাবে তাকে একজন ভালো বন্ধু হিসেবে মেনে নেওয়া খুব কঠিন! হা হা।
ভাবনা: চারশো পঁচাত্তর
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৩১ আগস্ট ২০০৯
Love is such a language which the
deaf can hear, an expression which the blind can see.
When words fail, love speaks. You
can refuse words, but how can you refuse love with which your heart is formed
of?
The language of love is the only
language that is universally defined.
I dunno whether animals love akwi
cos I am not loved any animal so far.
animals do have love..dunno how they
communicate with each other…but their affection to humans is great & pious…
true, girish / particularly the love
of a dog is always without expectation.
that is just an example
I think also. That was just an
example. A very good one.
yes dog also..its the animal human
domesticated for past 4000 yrs…i ve seen love & pain in eyes of many
animals…they tell their feeling by some actions…….at least they are not
materialistic…..just need food & love
Just food and love…..really
heart-touching! The only way to real happiness.
31 August 2009
An astrologer said, “You’ll
pass the next 2 years in miseries.” I asked, “After that?”
“Then you’ll hopefully become habituated to it!” he replied.
Do you believe astrology???
Huh! I don’t believe in it. But, I
sometimes go to them just to help them. I firmly believe that serving mankind is
a nobel task. @Sharmin.
….. Can you tell me who can
predict the astrology of God? Lol…..
31 August 2009
Friends! Good night!……..waiting
for the dawn.
1 September 2009
Good Morning, Facebook!
1 September 2009·
” You’re wrong, but that’s ok.
You can blame your ignorance. “
obviously, friend
Lol…….
You are right my friend.
what iz rite, what is wrong is only
depends on time..
There is nothing right or, wrong in
the world.
yes, right/wrong are not absolute,
an act can be justified in many different ways.
I will do later!!
Ignorance is bliss!
sometimes, not always
This time I won’t ask you the
reason, because ignorance is a bliss!
I am right and you are ignorant
about that.
I know. I’m at least ignorant about
it!
and that is a bliss for you Sushanta
1 September 2009
I think a conjugal life can be happy
if the husband never forgets what his wife says and the wife never remembers
what her husband says.
It’s called funny conjugal life.
Right……
So tell me, brother,
how did you come to know this,
eh?
By observing married people!
it depends on how many wives he has
Sushanta Paul Ahem, ahem! Polygamy?
Then……..
1 September 2009·
Now enjoying………. Look Back in
Anger…..by- John Osborn.
1 September 2009
Every woman tries to change her
beloved. But, when he really changes himself, the woman doesn’t love him
anymore.
I don’t agree with you guys.
Why? The fence is always greener on
the other side of the fence.
what makes you to think so???
The psychology of the girls.
I don’t think so…
Why? Please, Explain.
The psychology of all the girls are
not same…
Very natural. Then?
not woman, man always wants 2chang
his beloved…& then when she changed, he can’t accept that…
Never! Men aspect that his beloved
will never change after marriage.
Woman changes only when her beloved
wants…otherwise not
Ya you r8.why you guys always blame
a girl 4 everything?
Hmm…… Why blames? A Big ‘WHY
‘??? Lol….
Man proposes, Woman disposes!
Really!!!
Thanks for admitting this truth!
No problem! It’s good to have the courage to admit the truth! You’re so great!
which woman
Lol…
I suggest “every possessive
person”… instead of “women”… cause in my experience with
relationships, every man wanted to change me and still they do…
No one can ever change you. They can
just make you act as though you changed.
Of course, no one can, they only
try… only the eternal realisation can change a person itself…
If you’re obstinate, for example,
the more you’re tried to be controlled, the more you enjoy becoming more
obstinate.
Me, a woman, would not change an
inkling of my beloved, every breath, every gesture is precious!
Then, I must say that it has already
been changed after your liking.
once he has changed himself there is
no point in being with him / we have to search for someone else and change him
Moral of the story: woman change the
world
so it is better that I don’t change
and let tripti keep on trying to change me
hehehehe………………good
suggestion!
1 September 2009.
Girl: Will you love me so dearly
after marriage also?……… Boy: This depends on your husband, if he allows
me!
So funny…
LOVE or LIVE TOGETHER, What do you
mean?
Lol…….
Brother, you crazy monster but true
E X C E L L E N T!
Brother, I understand, I understand
your anguish. What can one do! Boyfriends are better than husbands,
girlfriends are better than wives.
Is love not a mixture of emotions
and is a state of mind / does a state of mind or emotion require permission/
this permission can be only to
express it but love will exist if it is there whether she is married or not
lolz……. Is there any lady to
marry Chanak? He is a liberal lion-hearted man! lolz……
Let us thrash out a very important
question – Does love happen only once
Love happens – accept it folks.
If love is something that happens –
then it can happen more than once also – right folks
Therefore it follows that love can
happen even if a person is married also
it again has to be kept in mind that
at all times we have to be true to ourselves and hence accept that we are in
love and not subject this to be reasoned out.
Love rules without rules!
true sushanta
Yes. I know. I’ve seen it in many
cases (not of mine, hopefully won’t)
Chanak Dev I dont mind if it happens
either way
Chanak Dev I dont believe that we
should lie to ourselves
Hmm…….Time will say.
funny sub-continental joke @Sushanta
– 100% agree @Chanak – we must be honest with ourselves, otherwise life is not
worthwhile living
Honesty! What’s this? Huh…….
huh? the mind tells you what you
like what you don’t, what is special what is not… whether you like basketball
or cricket…
…… What you’d like to be?
Lolz…… Hehehehe……
Reflection: Four Hundred Seventy-Six
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1 September 2009
Unlike others my brain is a
masterpiece. In the left half, nothing is right and in the right half, nothing
is left!
But if I ever go for a brain
transplant, I’d like your brain. It’s not because you’re a genius. I would only
like a fresh brain that has never been used.
ha ha… I thought every single
brain is a masterpiece and alike… they differ only the way they have been
used.
What about you who have not yet used
it? Lol. (Please read my first comment thread.)
so you happy with my brain then?
yeah unlike yourself I don’t use it
at all.
Lol…… I feel honoured!
cool, I am happy that at least my
brain has a way of living after my death
You brain starts working after your
death! That sounds better. Lol….. @Suraiya.
we are all born with
limitation…action expression look…state of mind…all fall under a broader
spectrum…. aren’t you lucky? that you could express about you feeling the way
you want…i work with the people who can’t decide for themselves…..we draw
cloud to show fear and sunshine for happiness….keep smiling…pls edit and
read….
indeed, we are very lucky and I am
not one of them who complains a lot… I am happy the way I am (even if some
(Sushanta) thinks I don’t know how to use my brain)……. don’t take it too
seriously, we are just playing with words… even the self-defined genius
Sushanta.
What is left of your brain, let’s
make it right!
This was a joke about the Satyam
fraud – there’s nothing right on the left of the balance sheet and there’s
nothing left on the right of the balance sheet!
….. Eternal sunshine through my
BRAIN! lolz.
…. I feel honoured (actually
flattered!) However, I feel proud of my uncommon brain.
…. Huh! You guys wanna play with
my wonderful brain! Very witty! Hahaha. Thanks for the suggestion.
…….a genius, I know!
…… In my case, I’d have rather
liked to replace it with my wonderful brain. Huh!
2 September 2009
Bangladeshi Airlines slogan: A Warm
experience & Motherly treatment…….. ‘Warm’ because AC doesn’t work
& ‘Motherly’ because the air hostesses are above 50.
What about Indian Airlines?
so true…………as once the
aviation minister commented, on air hostesses to continue beyond 50,that we
want AIR INDIA and not MOTHER INDIA!
The job of an air hostess was
originally to be on board nurse. Do you fly to ogle at girls or for safety?
thank you Sushanta for sharing so
many interesting jokes with us. thanks to you I began the day cheerfully…
Understand the funny side of it but
agree with Sunil Shibad – why age biased?
I agree with that, age should not be
a QR. but no doubt, one does like seeing smart young gals on board. Jet and
Kinfwisher have best .Air India are too wooden faced and indifferent…..and
the low cost airlines have replaced most with chick looking gay cabin crews
Thanks a lot for your compliments.
Hmm…….. Let’s launch a campaign bearing a slogan: Beautiful and only smart
girls of or, below 30 should be appointed as air hostesses. Huh! As passengers,
we deserve better mental care and satisfaction. The AC’s should be repaired, or
the windows should be kept open! If we start sweating, we might not look smart
and then the smart hostesses might not like to talk to us. Friends! Are you
with me in the campaign?
yeah window must be kept open for
you if you are not happy with human air hostesses… you know what will happen
if the window is open?
would you like to add….single and
available!…..and what about the gay cabin crews
I appreciate the downright honesty of
the Americans. Don’t they have an airline called Hooters?
We Indians/South East Asians pretend
to be “spiritual” when in fact we are the most sex-obsessed people.
Also, KF/Jet et al. Do they have flight simulators? I know IA/AI have at
Hyderabad. The near misses at Mumbai airport have me worried about the quality
of pilots and ATC.
typical age-biased people you are…
girls under 30 are the only sexy ones – that’s just the Indian way of talking… also
single and available? – do you pay for finding a match mid-flight?
Hmm…… Many good points to
mention…… We subcontinental people pretend to be spiritual, but are actually
mad about sex (good sign!)……….. Sexy girls needn’t necessarily be
under 30…….. We need Air India, not Mother India. I need Mother Bangladesh.
(lolz)……. There should be arrangements for gays as well. (Ahem,
ahem!)……….
Any other points worth mentioning?
A friend also raised the point of
ogling…. I think, if anyone feels no urge to ogle at a beautiful girl, it’s time
to consult a doctor before it’s too late! (ahem, ahem!)
What about extra payment for attractive
hostesses? Hahaha……..
sexuality and spirituality do not
contradict each other in my view
Cool! Some pretend to support
contradiction, but they themselves are of your view. Lol.
you have summarized well, Sushant. I
didn’t say that there should be provision for gays……..but observed that
there are a fair number of gays as cabin crew in airlines these days
I got your point earlier. It really
is so.
are you asking me, Sushanta?
it’s a fact. there is a fair number
of male cabin crew these days, especially in the low-cost airlines, even Jet, and
many of them are cute-looking gay men.
you have misunderstood – they are
addressing the elderly lady passengers whom they will treat like their own
mothers.
lol…………….all passengers in
general shouldn’t be on board!
Why?
if the pilots have taken you around
the cockpit you must be a VIP.
2 September 2009
Girl: Do you have any sentimental
love cards?…….. Shopkeeper: How about this card, it says, ‘To the only boy
I ever loved.’…….. Girl: Great! I want 10 of them.
No offense intended then. But now
I mean it! lol.
Sushanta…….haven’t you heard variety
is the spice of life…
I heard also…..To much spice, too
often stomach troubles.
Truth is not always sweet, but the
fruit of truth is always sweet!
Girls are generally lion-hearted;
many can share that heart!
Fruit of sweet…what’s da fruit
here?…shusaut,can you help me?
Yes……and guys are always
sticking to just one gal thru their life……….never even looking at another
one…!
We guys are chicken-hearted! Shame
on us!
…. Fruit? Wanna…. :).
…….. You know…….. an
intelligent boyfriend is better than a dumb hubby!
I hope you find a gal like that and
you both have eyes for each other only……….God bless and gud luck…
……. You swear to Anita!
Lolz……. ,
..how about intelligent
boyfrendSSSSSS
Wife is good, girlfriend is better!
I know… how you guys think….
I started when you guys told me,
Husband is part-time, boyfriend is full-time.
I swear 2 that girl who luvs only
me…I never ever understand why every girl want lv from all boyz…& girlz
always pray 4 a good 1 for a boy, but she never tries 2 be da 1
A man’s dream is to be a woman’s
first dream, a woman’s dream is to make the man her last romance.